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Schrade Frontier Survival Knives

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#1 ·
So lately Schrade has been making big waves in the affordable knife field, and the three blades that have been the most anticipated by bushcraft enthusiasts is the Frontier series, the Schf-36, 37, and 38. I know, I absolutely detest Schrade's numbering system, too. However, I wanted to see if Schrade could produce a good, full tang, carbon steel survival knife that would be absolutely reliable and tough in the field.

I decided to get the first two knives in the series since those are the ones that interest me the most. The Schf-36 and 37 showed up on Friday, and I finally got a chance to evaluate the blades today. What first struck me about the Frontier knives is that they're obviously inspired by and intended to compete with the Becker line. The Schrades are different from the Beckers, but are actually improved upon in a couple of ways. The Schf-36 is a re-imagining of the BK-2 Campanion, and the Schf-37 is a drop-point redesign of the Becker BK-7 Combat Utility.

The black finish is a powder coat that feels similar to the traction coating put on Beckers, Esee's, TOPS, ect, but is nowhere near as tough. The finish wears off pretty quickly, which is not a bad thing. You don't really want a "traction" coating on a bush knife anyway. Friction is a bad thing when chopping or batoning, so I'll be removing the finish from my Frontiers as soon as possible.

The Frontier-series knives, unlike the 8cr13mov stainless Schrade builds most of their other knives from, are made of good old 1095 carbon steel, the same as Becker, Esee, TOPS, Ontario, ect. As far as I can tell, the blades are perfectly heat treated and good to go, quality-wise. The edges hold up very well, almost, if not as good, as the Beckers. Since I strop as I'm going, I couldn't tell the difference in edge retention between the two brands.

Here they are next to their Becker cousins for you guys who like pics.



First up is the Schf-36.



Like I said before, the 36 is very similar to the BK-2. In fact, if you lay the knives on top of each other the blades have almost the same dimensions. The big difference is the curved handle and the choil. Now, I've been wanting to add a choil to my BK-2 pretty much since I got it, but never got around to grinding one in. However, after using the 36 I can say that a choil is a great addition to the design. It brings the hand up into the middle of the knife and gives you a lot more control and balance while you're carving wood.

First, I batoned some wood off a piece of firewood and then did some feathersticks with the 36, and it does a fantastic job, slicing very fine curls easily. Batoning proved to be no problem, either. The nearly 1/4" thick blade can take a hell of a beating. It can chop, too, although you'll have to add a lanyard to wrap around your wrist so you can choke down on the handle to get more leverage. I denuded a tree branch of its twigs, even thick ones, with only a hit or two each. This would be a fine knife for constructing shelters or building fires in an emergency. 



Who says you can't do bushcraft with a sharpened pry bar-type survival knife?

Next up is the Schf-37.



Basically, it's a drop point, 1/4" thick BK-7 with a choil, which is just fine with me. Chopping and batoning is this beast of a knife's forte, and it does it's job well. I processed a log into kindling with this bad boy, and it went through the seasoned pine with not a single problem. The thicker, heavier blade made the knife baton and chop better than its BK-7 cousin, which is intended more as a fighter than a bush knife. It made good curls for feathersticks, but I still need to dial the edge in a bit more before I'll be perfectly satisfied with its carving performance. Like with the 36, the choil is a great addition to the design, and I'll be adding one to my BK-7 in the future as well.



I convexed both knives as soon as I got them, and the edges on both held up perfectly well. The Schf-36, in addition to the high-relief convex, received a v-ground secondary bevel, since I anticipated carving more with it than the 37, which was only convexed for chopping and batoning performance. Both knives were still really sharp after I used them, and only required stropping on a block strop with black, green, and white buffing compound to make them hair-popping sharp (no exaggeration) and cut serpents in phone book paper.

The sheaths are pretty decent. Similar to the old-style Becker sheaths, they are made of cordura, with a retaining strap in the right place and a pouch to hold the diamond hone and firesteel that come with the knives! These were both great additions to the knife package, adn I'm glad Schrade threw them in.



The curved handles are a great idea, and the TPE material is firm, but not squishy, and won't cause blisters like I thought it would. the curving handle gives added leverage and power to snap cuts. The scales are a little thin for my extra-large hands, but since I'd planned on replacing the scales with contoured, custom micarta, the point is moot.

Which brings me to the only drawback I found with the knives. There are two sections of jimping on the tang that are absolutely an abomination, as far as I'm concerned. I don't know who the idiot at Schrade was who thought, "Hey, let's add jimping you could file metal with to the damned handles, that'll show 'em!" but the a-hole needs to be dragged out into the street and put in the stocks for all to throw rotten vegetables at and mock. Those two sections of jimping are perfect for generating hot spots and blisters during extended use.

The jimping is square-cut and protrudes annoyingly, with sharp edges that need to be either rounded off or removed. You could wrap the knife's handle with tennis racket tape, which is going to be my solution until I put new scales on. The new scales I make will actually be in line with the apex of the jimping humps, and I'm going to round off the jimping as well, which should eliminate the problem. I'm going to send Schrade a review of their knives and recommend removing the jimping. They're usually really good about fixing problems, and I'm betting this will be a big one with every single bushcrafter out there. Jimping is a good idea on a combat knife, but a terrible idea for a bush knife.

Also, wear leather gloves when you use these knives. It minimized the jimping issue pretty well.

All in all, these are great knives. I'll be getting the Schf-38 now, since I want to round out the collection, and I'm already thinking about the mods I'm going to do to all three knives. You won't find a better deal in survival knives. I got my Schf-36 for $32, and the Schf-37 for $35. No better deal exists.



After I processed the log with both knives, I used the 36 to make a shingle for my base board, piled a length of pulled-apart and fluffed jute twine (always kept in my fire kit) and my shavings onto the board, and hit it with my firesteel. Success. My fire was thankfully hot in the 27 degree weather, and I spent the next three hours kicking back by the fire, warming my feet, writing, and eventually cooking a steak over the coals. All brought to me by these badass new survival knives.



Go ahead, order one or two of the Schrade Frontier knives. You'll be happy you did. 
 
#5 ·
Excellent review thank you.
I have always loved Schrade knives and have a few old US made models. I haven't bought any since their production went to China as I felt that the quality suffered significantly. Your review gives me hope, so I will definitely be checking out this series.

I would like to see an update once you get all the modifications to yours finished.
 
#6 ·
JackCrow said:
I have always loved Schrade knives and have a few old US made models. I haven't bought any since their production went to China as I felt that the quality suffered significantly.
I'll say I've been somewhat involved with Schrade this last year or better Taylor brands which owns Schrade now. I will say some of the stuff they have put their name on hasn't been up to the standards of their US made stuff. But some of the stuff particular the SCHF series knives have been pretty dang impressive bang for the buck. I've got oh maybe 10 of them that I'll be offering sheaths for shortly and been reviewing since last winter. I've beat them, I mean really beat them harder than any other knives I've owned over the years. I've got a SCHF9 which I've battoned my morning kindling for the stove in the shop all last winter and this winter so far. Hundreds and hundreds of pieces of wood have been split up with that knife and the edge has held well. That is a 1095 knife like this new series, and I'd say if they do as well with these in 1095 steel then they have a heck of a knife. I've got a few minor complaints on the shape of the SCHF9 which these solve but overall it's been a beast of a knife. I'll say out of all of the SCHF knives I've got none have been problems, they have all been very very tough good knives even the ones running 8CR13MOV and other china stainless models. I will say the edge retention though on the stainless isn't up to the mark of the 1095 models. I also have seen the 1070 models don't hold the edge as well as the 1095 in my opinion but I believe those are all the low number knives the hollow handles(1,1SM,2,2SM, and maybe the 3). But overall they have been a bargain and a heck of a knife.

I'm really looking forward to trying out this new bunch since they solved some of my complaints with the earlier designs and making them in 1095 is just an extra bonus. I think I see the small one in my future to replace my SCHF10 as my normally carry knife around here:)

Luke
 
#7 ·
luke213(adamsholsters) said:
I'll say I've been somewhat involved with Schrade this last year or better Taylor brands which owns Schrade now. I will say some of the stuff they have put their name on hasn't been up to the standards of their US made stuff. But some of the stuff particular the SCHF series knives have been pretty dang impressive bang for the buck. I've got oh maybe 10 of them that I'll be offering sheaths for shortly and been reviewing since last winter. I've beat them, I mean really beat them harder than any other knives I've owned over the years. I've got a SCHF9 which I've battoned my morning kindling for the stove in the shop all last winter and this winter so far. Hundreds and hundreds of pieces of wood have been split up with that knife and the edge has held well. That is a 1095 knife like this new series, and I'd say if they do as well with these in 1095 steel then they have a heck of a knife. I've got a few minor complaints on the shape of the SCHF9 which these solve but overall it's been a beast of a knife. I'll say out of all of the SCHF knives I've got none have been problems, they have all been very very tough good knives even the ones running 8CR13MOV and other china stainless models. I will say the edge retention though on the stainless isn't up to the mark of the 1095 models. I also have seen the 1070 models don't hold the edge as well as the 1095 in my opinion but I believe those are all the low number knives the hollow handles(1,1SM,2,2SM, and maybe the 3). But overall they have been a bargain and a heck of a knife.

I'm really looking forward to trying out this new bunch since they solved some of my complaints with the earlier designs and making them in 1095 is just an extra bonus. I think I see the small one in my future to replace my SCHF10 as my normally carry knife around here:)

Luke
Very good.

I've been impressed with the recent Schrade offerings. My brother-in-law got a Schf-14, which is a dandy little EDC knife, and a guy I know also bought an Schf-10, which he loves.

If you start offering sheaths for this Frontier line, I may have to order one from you. I'll bet they'll be beautiful rigs.

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BTW, I just ordered one of these Schf-38's. It will hopefully arrive before Thanksgiving. If it does, I'll have it on my big Thanksgiving trip down south, so I'll give it a try in the mountains of Southern Utah and report back here on the results.
 
#9 ·
I will be requesting the new models shortly, honestly I offered to do the sheaths as well as review the knives I've got. The trouble is that being an honest guy I am I haven't had the time to review the blades I've gotten. I've worked out the sheaths mostly in the fact that I'm building a bit of a carry sheath rather than a dedicated bushcraft type of sheath. So when I get a chance to type up some reviews since I've decided my video camera and audio just isn't good enough to do video reviews which was my first plan. Anyways the sheaths are more designed for carry, maybe even daily carry even though they are large knives or most of them are. This is the one I've been carrying for quite a while now and got allot of use out of.

This is one for the SCHF10:
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And here is one I made for the smaller SCHF13:
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Both of those have two positions to put the belt through, basically a mid ride, and a high ride position. In the high ride position which is honestly where I leave them 99.9% of the time myself I can comfortably carry that big of a knife pretty much daily. I carry it weak side around 9 o'clock crossdraw basically but straight up and down, it's high enough not to dig into a car seat so you can sit and stand no problem etc. There isn't any of the extra stuff like firesteel or sharpening pouch etc, just a good solid streamlined sheath that holds the knife well. Boned retention on those, works well enough retention you never have to worry about the knife coming loose etc.

So as soon as I get some reviews done, and get the sheaths up on the site I'll be requesting a couple more to review and do the sheaths for. Right now I've got the SCHF-1, 1SM, 2, 2SM, 9, 10, 13, 14, 15, 21, 22 and maybe a few others that are out of my line of sight at the moment and I've forgotten the numbers of;) Overall though all of them have been good/great knives especially for the dollar amount and have gotten pretty rave reviews. I'd say my favorite in the mid/small sized blades is the 13, better grip in my opinion than the 14-15 style and much more comfortable in the hand. After sanding some of the rough off the 14 I've been pretty happy with it as well. In the larger sizes I find I love the 10 for carry, but it's a little shorter than I'd like in blade length and I'm not super thrilled with the stainless steel. So I prefer the 9, but it's not as good for carry because of the scales and size, so it's really a toss up. The 10 will do almost everything the 9 will do but the 9 does it slightly better except for actually carrying it daily then the micarta scales are just better at not snagging clothing and being smaller and less bulky.

Talking about them is bringing me back into thinking about reviewing them. I think I'm going to start typing up some reviews of them in batches, I don't think I'll review them individually but more likely all the hollow handles in one batch, the mid size in another than the 9-10 in another batch.

Take care!

Luke
 
#10 ·
Those are some excellent sheaths. I like that they're not dedicated bushcraft rigs, which I tend to find a little much most of the time. Putting all that extra stuff, like a firesteel loop and Altoids tin pouch on the sheath, just makes the sheath a little heavy and bulky for my tastes. I tend to go with simpler and more streamlined rigs, such as the one you made, and carry all my other gear distributed around my body.

I'd be interested to see some reviews of other Schrades, especially the hollow-handled integrals. I really want one or two of those. I wish they made the big one in a clip point without the serrations, but I guess you can't have it all. The Schf-2SM has been in my Amazon shopping cart for months. I'll have to pull the trigger on those one day. 
 
#11 ·
I'll say out of the hollow handles I like the look of the smaller ones of the sm variety but they are just too short for battoning in my use and I'm not super thrilled with the 1070 steel. I haven't used them as much as some of the others but they just don't seem to hold as good of am edge as their 1095 might be parallel to the stainless.
 
#12 ·
luke213(adamsholsters) said:
I'll say out of the hollow handles I like the look of the smaller ones of the sm variety but they are just too short for battoning in my use and I'm not super thrilled with the 1070 steel. I haven't used them as much as some of the others but they just don't seem to hold as good of am edge as their 1095 might be parallel to the stainless.
Have you tried convexing them? I've got a bunch of convexed Condors in 1075 that hold their edges great, but I had to give them a really good convex before the edge retention was up to snuff. The nice thing about the softer steels is that you can easily resharpen them in the field on something like a river rock, although 1095 is really good for that, too.
 
#15 ·
Deer Hunter said:
Well I just ordered the 37. 

Forty dollars shipped, so hopefully it's gonna be a great in-between knife.  Wonder if I can get it to throw as well as my kukri.  :hmm
I bet it'll throw pretty well, and be indestructible to boot. I might try to chuck my 38 before I mod it and see if I can stick it.

Got some more material coming on these knives. I spent last week in the bush of Southern Utah, riding quads all over hell and back and doing some more bushcraft with my 37. I forgot the 36, to my everlasting annoyance, but the 37 did very well. I need to thin the edge out some more, and the knife really needs some tennis racket tape on the handle, but overall the 37 impressed the hell out of me. I batoned the crap out of it, made some fires, and used it to clear some trails so I wouldn't tear myself up on the ATV. It's a good survival knife. Now, if I could just get some new handles made. I've got an idea for how the contours of the scales will go to make the handle much more effective, but I need to get a vice fixture made up so I can file the micarta from different angles.
 
#16 ·
I see the handles seem to be screwed on with allen bolts. If that's the case, then you could probably fashion whatever kind of grip you would like as long as you drill out for the allen screws, right?

The first thing I'll do when it arrives is put an edge on it, that's for sure. Not like it's my go-to skinner, but I'm not sure I've ever heard someone complain that their knife was too sharp.
 
#19 ·
Deer Hunter said:
I see the handles seem to be screwed on with allen bolts. If that's the case, then you could probably fashion whatever kind of grip you would like as long as you drill out for the allen screws, right?

The first thing I'll do when it arrives is put an edge on it, that's for sure. Not like it's my go-to skinner, but I'm not sure I've ever heard someone complain that their knife was too sharp.
Yep, the scales are attached with Allen bolts. The knives have a full tang with no lightening cutouts, just one solid piece of metal with two holes for the scales and one for the lanyard. I reprofiled and stripped the blade on my new Schf-38 today, as well as squaring up the spine for striking with a firesteel and giving the blade a quick and dirty patina. Finally, I wrapped the handle with Wilson tennis racket tape, which has for the moment solved the jimping issue until I can make new handles. I'll post pics up tomorrow. It turned out nice. I thinned the edge out, raised the primary bevel a bit, gave it an almost zero-height assymetrical grind, and made it hair-popping sharp.

I'm starting to appreciate the 38 now, whereas before I wasn't so impressed. I did the usual one-stick fire today to test it out, and it does all the normal survival knife stuff just fine. It made fine curls on the feathersticks effortlessly, batoned great, and even chopped some green wood okay. It's not a great chopper, and it's not well-balanced enough to be a good combat knife, but it'll do fine as an indestructible bush knife.
 
#20 ·
Mine finally arrived.  I dunno what scale Knife Depot is working on, but apparently "Two day" shipping is actually four day.

It's everything I could have asked for, though. Solid knife, well balanced, good sheath and accessories.  I already started a fire with it in my kitchen. Good times.

I packed up some lint really tight in a small plastic container.  Makes for a good quick fire starter material.
 
#21 ·
Mine's still awesome.

I added a small container of super-compacted dryer lint to the sheath where it has an elastic strap.  It's enough to set the whole damned woods on fire if I needed to.

Just bought another one as a gift for my brother in law, too.